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The million dollar question still remains: Can a simple statistical correlation be shown between astrology's 4 elements and Jung's 4 types or functions? Can one look at the birth chart in order to determine which element is the "dominant," preferred element and which element is the "inferior," disliked element. Will this, in turn, correlate with Jung's 4 functions? In practice, this has been looked at as a problem and/or a "fly in the ointment" for those astrologers seeking to correlate and/or synthesize the two theories. The two systems are related, but unfortunately it is not a matter open to simplistic theories and/or simple statistical correlation. Controversy
C.G. Jung did obviously relate the 4 classical temperaments (and, specifically, the astrological elements) with the concept of 4 functions/types (Psychological Types, pp 510-511, 531-532) - however he never spelled out in simple terms which function went with which element. Granted... Jung could have saved us all from a heck of a lot of trouble if he'd done that. However, he chose not to do this. Thus, there are numerous differing schematic theories floating around on the subject. For example, there have been admirable attempts (with some historical basis) to place the 4 classical temperaments (Choleric, Melancholic, Sanguine, Phlegmatic) within what are called the 4 quadrants or sectors of the astrological chart, rather than with the elements. However, I can pass on to you that Aristotle - On Generation and Corruption, Plato - Timaeus, and pseudo Ocellus - On the Nature of the Universe all directly associated the 4 classical temperaments (or humors) with the four elements: Choleric (Fire), Melancholic (Earth), Sanguine (Air), and Phlegmatic (Water). Further... Aristotle placed Fire primarily in opposition to Earth and Air primarily in opposition of Water. This would be exactly in line with Jung's placing of Intuition in opposition to Sensing and the placing of Thinking in opposition to Feeling. (Please don't confuse the term "opposition" when used in the philosophical and/or psychological context as opposed to when the term "opposition" is used in an astrological context.) Counting
The Elements There are several proposed methods regarding how to go about counting the elements in the birth chart. For those unfamiliar with the bare basics of astrology, this is where you may tend to get a wee bit lost. However, even if unfamiliar with astrology, you most likely know which sign your birth Sun is located in? The important thing to know is that, in the astrological chart, the elemental placement of the luminaries and planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto) are each important and thus each should be considered and "counted." In counting the elements, one of the preferred methods gives 2 points for the elements that the Sun and Moon are located in and then 1 point for each for the elements that Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto are located in. Fire - Aries,
Leo, Sagittarius Example:
Let's count the elements. Sun in Aries- 2 points for Fire, Moon in Leo - 2 points for Fire, Mercury in Pisces - 1 point for Water, Venus in Pisces - 1 point for Water, Mars in Leo - 1 point for Fire, Jupiter in Gemini - 1 point for Air, Saturn in Libra - 1 point for Air, Uranus in Cancer - 1 point for Water, Neptune in Libra - 1 point for Air, and Pluto in Leo - 1 point for Fire. Fire (Intuitive)
- 6 points In this example, counting the 4 elements and comparing it with Jung's 4 functions will correlate perfectly if one likewise tests out as being an intuitive type. As an intuitive, Fire type, according to Jung's theory, then one's "inferior" function would automatically be sensing or Earth. However... more times than not, the simplistic counting up of elements contained in the birth chart and then taking a Type indicator test to determine one's function still do not "on the face of it" appear to fully correlate with one another. So the simplistic counting up of the elements is a convenient rule of thumb "short cut" that sometimes works quite well, but often times doesn't. Million
Dollar Question Can a simple statistical correlation be shown? The answer is no. Flies
in the Ointment It's true that many times, simply looking to the element one's Zodiac Sun sign is located in or to the element one's Ascendant is located in (without utilizing one of the complex counting methods) will point to the "superior" type/function in Jung's theory of personality types. This "rule of thumb" idea is put forth in Jeff Mayo's The Planets and Human Behavior. When this is not the case, then quite often the Sun Sign element points to Jung's "auxiliary" or secondary type/function. However, this is not always going to reliably be the case - and so I shy away from the temptation of turning that into any sort of an ironclad rule to follow. A Few of the Complicating Factors One - One complicating factor is that the elements are not necessarily confined to the Zodiacal placements of the various planets.
Two - This is slighty "heretical" on my part, however I'm not totally convinced that any of various type indicator tests accurately measure Jung's intuition function that I have associated with the element of fire. One thing interesting is the Keirsey Temperament Sorter (despite, it’s extremely unorthodox methodology) may have accidentally stumbled on to something with its unique type categories consisting of SP (fire), SJ (earth), NT (air), NF (water). Three - This is also more than "heretical" on my part, but I'm not totally convinced that any of various type indicator tests accurately measure Jung's 4 functions in a person's life. Self-report tests such as the Myers-Briggs and the Keirsey, may end up telling one more about who the person tested would like to be, rather than who the person actually is. Four - Perhaps, most important, as already mentioned in the beginning of this article... C.G. Jung did relate the 4 classical temperaments (and, specifically, the astrological elements) with the concept of 4 functions/types - however, he never spelled out in simple terms which function went with which element. I freely admit that it's dangerous guessing why someone chose not to do something. However, it appears that while Jung did think the two concepts to be similar, he did not consider them to be identical. Recommendation
That is... the various type indicator tests can be utilized as an augmentative tool and/or short cut for sorting out and determining how an individual is in real life "living out" the complex mix of elemental energies and/or "themes" in their birth chart. My Bottom Line - Where The Rubber Meets The Road The bottom line is that I could care less about "proving something." While many astrologers are pathologically consumed with "proving something" - my ultimate concern is what "works" in people's lives. And what appears to "work" is that the various type indicator tests can be used in the monumental task of cohesively pulling together the various complex parts and themes of a birth chart for interpretation. Enabling people to gain a better understanding of who they are in order to live more emotionally healthy, productive lives is, in the end, what astrology is (or should be) all about. Well... There you have it! I have now devoted 3 full articles in the explanation and comparison of astrology's 4 elements with Jung's 4 psychological types - and the sad fact is that I've just barely had time to "scratch the surface." << Back To The Four Elements Index Home > Astrology and Jung > Four Elements > Elements vs Types |
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